Comments on: XForms http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/30/xforms/ Sat, 27 Aug 2011 06:33:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: Erik Bruchez http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/30/xforms/comment-page-1/#comment-1780 Erik Bruchez Mon, 01 May 2006 18:12:32 +0000 http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/29/xforms/#comment-1780 <![CDATA[Olivier, good to see that you like XForms! But please be sure to check out Ajax-based XForms implementations before you complain about the lack of XForms implementations: those make sure that you do not depend either on plugin installs or browser support, and that you can simply upgrade a piece or server-side code to upgrade your XForms support! In particular, you may want to check Orbeon PresentationServer (OPS), an open source Ajax-based XForms engine: http://www.orbeon.com/software/get-excited Also, we are giving a talk on the tight relationship between XForms and Ajax at the XTech conference in a couple of weeks: http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/133 This may be of interest to you!]]> < ![CDATA[Olivier, good to see that you like XForms!

But please be sure to check out Ajax-based XForms implementations before you complain about the lack of XForms implementations: those make sure that you do not depend either on plugin installs or browser support, and that you can simply upgrade a piece or server-side code to upgrade your XForms support!

In particular, you may want to check Orbeon PresentationServer (OPS), an open source Ajax-based XForms engine:

http://www.orbeon.com/software/get-excited

Also, we are giving a talk on the tight relationship between XForms and Ajax at the XTech conference in a couple of weeks:

http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/133

This may be of interest to you!]]>

]]> By: Oliver http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/30/xforms/comment-page-1/#comment-1779 Oliver Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:24:59 +0000 http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/29/xforms/#comment-1779 Ahh. I blame the developers of formsPlayer then for allowing the content type to be ignored... :P Ahh. I blame the developers of formsPlayer then for allowing the content type to be ignored… :P

]]> By: Allan Beaufour http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/30/xforms/comment-page-1/#comment-1778 Allan Beaufour Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:10:12 +0000 http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/29/xforms/#comment-1778 <![CDATA[That's because the samples are served as "text/html", which is wrong. It should be "application/xhtml+xml" as it is not HTML but XHTML. If you right click on one of the examples and choose "View Page Info", you can see the type. The XForms Extension for Firefox does not "kick in" if the document is not handled as XML. We've included some "troubleshooting tips" here: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XForms:Form_Troubleshooting]]> < ![CDATA[That's because the samples are served as "text/html", which is wrong. It should be "application/xhtml+xml" as it is not HTML but XHTML. If you right click on one of the examples and choose "View Page Info", you can see the type.

The XForms Extension for Firefox does not "kick in" if the document is not handled as XML.

We've included some "troubleshooting tips" here:
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XForms:Form_Troubleshooting>

]]> By: Oliver http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/30/xforms/comment-page-1/#comment-1777 Oliver Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:57:03 +0000 http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/29/xforms/#comment-1777 <![CDATA[http://www.formsplayer.com/community/samples/ None of the examples I tried worked in Firefox, I just get "FormsPlayer has failed to load! Please check your installation." at the top and a lack of any sort of inputs in the page. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xforms/samples/calc_svg_1010.xhtml http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xforms/samples/tax_form/TaxForm.xhtml These pages on the other hand display fine in Firefox (although obviously not in IE because of the missing formsPlayer code).]]> < ![CDATA[http://www.formsplayer.com/community/samples/

None of the examples I tried worked in Firefox, I just get "FormsPlayer has failed to load! Please check your installation." at the top and a lack of any sort of inputs in the page.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xforms/samples/calc_svg_1010.xhtml
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xforms/samples/tax_form/TaxForm.xhtml

These pages on the other hand display fine in Firefox (although obviously not in IE because of the missing formsPlayer code).]]>

]]> By: Mark Birbeck http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/30/xforms/comment-page-1/#comment-1776 Mark Birbeck Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:02:01 +0000 http://www.oliverbrown.me.uk/2006/03/29/xforms/#comment-1776 <![CDATA[Hi Oliver, Great to hear of your interest in XForms! One quick thing though, on the plug-ins you referred to. I'm not sure why you said "neither worked that well", since the IE6 plug-in (formsPlayer) is a full implementation of XForms and is used in many real-life applications, and the Mozilla plug-in is adding features at a fair rate of knots, and can already be used for many 'serious' forms. Also, the presence of the object/import tags for IE6 shouldn't affect Mozilla's behaviour. It might be worth, therefore, double-checking your forms and if you have found bugs I know that both the Mozilla team and us here at formsPlayer would be grateful to hear about them. Thanks! Best regards, Mark Mark Birbeck CEO x-port.net Ltd. http://www.formsPlayer.com/]]> < ![CDATA[Hi Oliver,

Great to hear of your interest in XForms!

One quick thing though, on the plug-ins you referred to. I'm not sure why you said "neither worked that well", since the IE6 plug-in (formsPlayer) is a full implementation of XForms and is used in many real-life applications, and the Mozilla plug-in is adding features at a fair rate of knots, and can already be used for many 'serious' forms.

Also, the presence of the object/import tags for IE6 shouldn't affect Mozilla's behaviour.

It might be worth, therefore, double-checking your forms and if you have found bugs I know that both the Mozilla team and us here at formsPlayer would be grateful to hear about them.

Thanks!

Best regards,

Mark

Mark Birbeck
CEO
x-port.net Ltd.

http://www.formsPlayer.com/>

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